論語The Analects of Confucius

論語The Analects of Confucius

Book 3: 《八佾》 Ba Yi (Eight Rows)

《八佾》 Passage 3.13

王孫賈問曰:「與其媚於奧,寧媚於竈,何謂也?」子曰:「不然,獲罪於天,無所禱也。」

Legge Translation (1861)

Wangsun Jia asked, saying: "What is the meaning of the saying, 'It is better to pay court to the furnace than to the south-west corner?'"

The Master said: "Not so. He who offends against Heaven has none to whom he can pray."
Word by word 13 terms · glosses and Anki cards
  1. 王孫賈 wáng sūn gǔ

    Wangsun Jia, a powerful minister of the state of Wey

    • 王 first syllable of the double surname Wangsun (王孫)
    • 孫 second syllable of the double surname Wangsun (王孫)
    • 賈 given name Jia, of the Wey courtier Wangsun Jia
  2. 問曰 wèn yuē

    asked, said, in posing a question

    • 問 asked, posed a question
    • 曰 said, introduces the following direct speech
  3. 與其…寧 yǔ qí … nìng

    rather than..., it would be better to..., correlative comparison frame

    • 與 comparative particle: as against, compared with
    • 其 correlative particle marking the rejected option in a comparison
    • 寧 adverb: rather, preferably, introduces the preferred alternative

    The frame 與其⋯寧, 'rather than X, better Y': in Legge's 'It is better to pay court to the furnace than to the south-west corner', 'better' answers 寧 and 'than' the 與其 — the 其 pointing at the option the proverb rejects. Slingerland's supplied text drops the proverb itself, so no rendering can be drawn from it here.

  4. 媚於 mèi yú

    to flatter, curry favor with, pay court to

    • 媚 to flatter, curry favor with, ingratiate oneself to
    • 於 preposition: to, toward, marking the object flattered
  5. 奧 ào

    the spirit of the southwest corner of the house, a revered but remote household god

    孔安國 and 朱熹 read the proverb as Wangsun Jia's veiled hint that Confucius should court the minister in power (the stove, Jia himself) rather than the ruler's inner circle (the corner). Translators split between the literal 'southwest corner' and the interpretive 'household shrine' for the same referent.

  6. 媚於 mèi yú

    to flatter, curry favor with, pay court to

    • 媚 to flatter, curry favor with, ingratiate oneself to
    • 於 preposition: to, toward, marking the object flattered
  7. 竈 zào

    the kitchen stove, the humble but ever-present kitchen god

  8. 何謂也 hé wèi yě

    what does this mean?, what is the point of this saying?

    • 何 what, interrogative pronoun
    • 謂 to mean, to signify
    • 也 final particle marking a direct question
  9. 子曰 zǐ yuē

    the Master said

    • 子 the Master, Confucius
    • 曰 said, introduces the following direct speech
  10. 不然 bù rán

    not so, that is mistaken

    • 不 not
    • 然 so, correct, as stated

    Roberts substitutes a rhetorical rebuke ('How could you?') for a direct negation of the saying.

  11. 獲罪於 huò zuì yú

    to commit an offense against, to incur blame from

    • 獲 to obtain, to bring upon oneself
    • 罪 offense, guilt, blame
    • 於 preposition: against, toward, marking the target of the offense
  12. 天 tiān

    Heaven, the impersonal moral-cosmic power to which one is ultimately accountable

    Ames & Rosemont leaves the term transliterated as 'tian' rather than translating it.

  13. 無所禱也 wú suǒ dǎo yě

    there is nowhere left to turn in prayer, no one who can grant pardon

    • 無 there is not, to lack
    • 所 nominalizing particle: that which, a place where
    • 禱 to pray, to entreat
    • 也 final particle of assertion, closing the statement

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