論語The Analects of Confucius

論語The Analects of Confucius

Book 3: 《八佾》 Ba Yi (Eight Rows)

《八佾》 Passage 3.4

林放問禮之本。子曰:「大哉問!禮,與其奢也,寧儉;喪,與其易也,寧戚。」

Legge Translation (1861)

Lin Fang asked what was the first thing to be attended to in ceremonies. The Master said: "A great question indeed!

In festive ceremonies, it is better to be sparing than extravagant. In the ceremonies of mourning, it is better that there be deep sorrow than a minute attention to observances."
Word by word 19 terms · glosses and Anki cards
  1. 林放 lín fàng

    Lin Fang, proper name (questioner in this dialogue)

    • 林 surname Lin, of the questioner Lin Fang
    • 放 given name: Fang (personal name of the questioner)
  2. 問 wèn

    to ask about, inquire into

  3. 禮 lǐ

    ritual, the rites, proper ceremonial conduct

  4. 之 zhī

    possessive/attributive particle: of

  5. 本 běn

    root, basis, essential foundation

  6. 子曰 zǐ yuē

    the Master said

    • 子 honorific title: Master (here, Confucius)
    • 曰 said, spoke
  7. 大 dà

    great, impressive, noble

  8. 哉 zāi

    exclamatory final particle: indeed!

  9. 問 wèn

    question, inquiry

  10. 禮 lǐ

    ritual, the rites (as generally practiced)

  11. 與其…也 yǔ qí … yě

    correlative frame: rather than..., marking the rejected option in a comparison

    • 與 comparative particle: than, rather than
    • 其 correlative particle: that one, the alternative option
    • 也 classical final particle marking the first term of a comparison
  12. 奢 shē

    extravagant, ostentatious

  13. 寧 nìng

    would rather, it is preferable to

    Not 'peace, tranquility'; here it is the modal adverb 'would rather'.

  14. 儉 jiǎn

    frugal, sparing, modest

  15. 喪 sāng

    mourning, funeral rites

  16. 與其…也 yǔ qí … yě

    correlative frame: rather than..., marking the rejected option in a comparison

    • 與 comparative particle: than, rather than
    • 其 correlative particle: that one, the alternative option
    • 也 classical final particle marking the first term of a comparison
  17. 易 yì

    punctilious, overly formal, fussy about correct detail

    Commentators split: 包咸 (in 何晏) reads 易 as 和易, ease or composure of manner, which Roberts follows; 朱熹 reads it as 治, the forms handled smoothly and expertly, hence the 'formality' of Legge, Lau and Chin. Either way it is set against 戚, heartfelt grief.

  18. 寧 nìng

    would rather, it is preferable to

    Not 'peace, tranquility'; here it is the modal adverb 'would rather'.

  19. 戚 qī

    grief, sorrow, heartfelt lamentation

    Not the alternate sense 'relative, kin'; here it means grief.

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