Book 7: 《述而》 Shu Er (Transmission)
《述而》 Passage 7.15
Legge Translation (1861)
Ran You said: "Is our Master for the ruler of Wey?"Zigong said: "Oh! I will ask him." He went in accordingly, and said: "What sort of men were Bo Yi and Shu Qi?"
"They were ancient worthies," said the Master.
"Did they have any repinings because of their course?"
The Master again replied: "They sought to act virtuously, and they did so; what was there for them to repine about?"
On this, Zigong went out and said: "Our Master is not for him."
Word by word
- 冉有 rǎn yǒu
Ran You (Ran Qiu), a disciple of Confucius
- 冉 surname (proper name)
- 有 You, courtesy-name element in 冉有; Ran Qiu's (冉求) courtesy name is 子有, his given name 求
Translators use different romanizations of the same disciple's name (Ran You / Ran Qiu / Jan Yu).
- 曰 yuē
to say, said
- 夫子 fū zǐ
the Master, honorific title for Confucius
- 夫 first element of the title 夫子, the Master
- 子 master, teacher (honorific suffix)
- 為 wèi
to support, side with, take the part of
The question is whether Confucius backs the reigning ruler of Wey in his succession dispute with his father.
- 衛君 wèi jūn
the ruler of the state of Wey
- 衛 Wey, name of a state
- 君 ruler, lord
Duke Chu of Wey (出公輒), grandson of Duke Ling, who held the throne against his exiled father Kuai Kui (蒯聵); the question is whether the Master sides with son against father.
- 乎 hū
interrogative final particle
- 子貢 zǐ gòng
Zigong, a disciple of Confucius
- 子 prefix of a courtesy name, as in 子路 and 子貢; not the title Master
- 貢 Gong, courtesy-name element in 子貢, the courtesy name of Duanmu Ci (端木賜); his given name is 賜
- 曰 yuē
to say, said
- 諾 nuò
yes, all right (expression of assent)
- 吾 wú
I, me (first-person pronoun)
- 將 jiāng
future auxiliary: shall, will, about to
- 問 wèn
to ask, inquire of
- 之 zhī
him (third-person object pronoun, referring to Confucius)
- 入 rù
to enter, go in
- 曰 yuē
to say, said
- 伯夷 bó yí
Bo Yi, elder son of the lord of Guzhu who yielded the throne to his brother Shu Qi and later starved on Mount Shouyang rather than eat the grain of Zhou
- 伯 eldest, senior (rank term used in personal names)
- 夷 personal-name element
- 叔齊 shū qí
Shu Qi, Bo Yi's brother, who starved alongside him in protest
- 叔 younger, junior (rank term used in personal names)
- 齊 personal-name element
- 何 hé
what, what sort of (interrogative)
- 人 rén
person, man
- 也 yě
final particle marking a question of identity
- 曰 yuē
to say, said
- 古 gǔ
ancient, of antiquity, of old
- 之 zhī
modifying particle: of
- 賢 xián
worthy, virtuous, of good character
- 人 rén
person, man
- 也 yě
final particle of assertion
- 曰 yuē
to say, said
Only Roberts marks this dialogue tag explicitly; the rest leave the question 'did they harbor resentment?' unintroduced by a verb of speech.
- 怨 yuàn
resentment, grievance, rancor
- 乎 hū
interrogative final particle
- 曰 yuē
to say, said
Five of eight translators leave the Master's answer unintroduced by a verb of speech.
- 求 qiú
to seek, pursue
- 仁 rén
benevolence, humaneness
Translators split into three clusters for 仁 here: benevolence/humaneness, capitalized 'Goodness', and Ames & Rosemont's process-oriented 'authoritative conduct'.
- 而 ér
coordinating conjunction: and
- 得 dé
to obtain, get, attain
- 仁 rén
benevolence, humaneness
Same three-way split as the first 仁 in this line; several translators (Legge, Peimin Ni, Watson) use an anaphoric 'so' or pronoun rather than repeating the word.
- 又 yòu
continuative particle: and so, then
Only Lau and Chin render 又 with an explicit connector; the other six let the rhetorical force of 何...怨 alone carry the sense.
- 何 hé
what, why (interrogative)
- 怨 yuàn
resentment, grievance, rancor
- 出 chū
to go out, exit, emerge
- 曰 yuē
to say, said
- 夫子 fū zǐ
the Master, honorific title for Confucius
- 夫 first element of the title 夫子, the Master
- 子 master, teacher (honorific suffix)
- 不 bù
not (negates the following verb)
- 為 wèi
to support, side with, take the part of
Zigong infers the Master's answer indirectly: since Bo Yi and Shu Qi got what they sought and had no cause for resentment, Confucius would not back a ruler embroiled in the kind of succession dispute they refused to join.
- 也 yě
final particle of assertion
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